Hey everyone - this is the Top 5 Best Teams in Blood Bowl 2020 segment from the Podcast episode #51. We’ve taken the segment separately to make it easier to get to!
NHẬN XÉT
Tyranids are the best Bloodbowl team! Sorry, just hopeful.
Sami Lynn11 ngày trước
Thinking of starting out Blood Bowl as a Skaven. Any tips or tricks?
Chris KayTháng trước
Haha, brown primer will be your friend here 😂👍
The Bonehead PodcastTháng trước
Not at all!! Go crazy! Design your own colour scheme and make your own team 😍
The Bonehead PodcastTháng trước
Also is there any set rules on uniform colours for Blood Bowl like with space marine chapter colours or is it just whatever colour takes your fancy?
Chris KayTháng trước
Fantastic, thank you 😊 I'm mostly in on them because I wanna paint something that's not undead 😂
Chris KayTháng trước
Hey Chris! I absolutely *love* Skaven! Awesome team! Do check out our Starting Rosters video for Skaven teams (viworld.info/rock/video/0pKFtJvJl3qinKs.html) - it’ll talk you through your options! But secondly - Skaven die all the time! Be prepared 😂 but they’re super fast and really flexible!!
The Bonehead PodcastTháng trước
Really happy I bought a tabletop lizardmen team a year ago :) Also, please may you explain what is meant by "stretch play"? Thanks.
Benny Bartez2 tháng trước
Hey Benny! Yeah! Lizards got even better (and a lot cooler now the Chameleon is worthwhile!). Sure thing, sorry! What I mean by a stretch play is this... A Player with the ball can only move so far - that's it's normal distance. If that's enough for a TD - huzzah! Otherwise -no. Handing off or passing to another player - combines the movement of 2 or 3 players, stretching the play beyond that limit! So having someone within MA+0-2) distance from the EZ allows that stretch play straight to a TD!!
The Bonehead Podcast2 tháng trước
Sounds cliche, but if you get a very experienced Dwarf coach, he can make a lot of heads look quite foolish.
John Wilson3 tháng trước
You're so right, John! Same with Norse coaches - Block and positioning will win more games than high AG!
The Bonehead Podcast3 tháng trước
With the new chameleon skinks, suddenly taking catch almost feels better than sure hands for regular skinks. So much the better since catch is an agility skill which skinks have easy access to. What is it 20SPP (I think) for a skink to have dodge, stunty, block and catch...sounds legit to me. The old block/sure hands skink is still solid but that's 30 SPP? For 1/3 less SPP catch, block sounds really solid too. Sure hands feels better on the chameleon along with accurate.
WoWisdeadtome3 tháng trước
Dwarfs, Undead, Humans, Lizardmen, Skaven. I think all the elves are pretty clustered right in the 6-8 slots.
WoWisdeadtome3 tháng trước
Necromntic not good?
ellindar13 tháng trước
I like Orc teams kicking the living crap out of other teams is my bag
LCFC FOX4 tháng trước
Dwarfs, Humans, Skaven, Undead, Lizardmen.
Ota Kovarik4 tháng trước
Agreed, I can't put any elves in my top 5, not at reasonable/lowish TV. And I'd rate Wood Elves as the worst elves now. There's no more leaping in cages and stealing the ball, and anyone retrieving it and passing it away. Instead on defense it's screens and attrition for up to 8 turns. You still have mighty blow tackle to deal with, diving tackle armbar player could be brutal, and there's more teams who can undercut your expensive elven TV with access to cheap bribes for increased fouling.
BftBG7772 tháng trước
Ota, I can't argue with that - they're some excellent teams in this edition!
The Bonehead Podcast4 tháng trước
I do agree with Lizardmen taking the top spot, Break Tackle did get nerfed badly but ST4 MA 6 still works wonders and now they have a good option on stretch play while others don't as much. I don't know if I agree with Skaven being that much better. Sure there stretch play became better but their Gutter runner BS plays are severely hampered and that always has been their strongest part of the defense. So no, I don't think that Skaven gained as much as Pro Elves did.
Joris Vander Cammen4 tháng trước
Thanks, Joris! Nice to have you on board!
The Bonehead Podcast4 tháng trước
You did earn a subscription here.
Joris Vander Cammen4 tháng trước
Loved the video, but felt sea-sick with the floating background... Strong painkillers probably not helping!
Timothor, God of Punder4 tháng trước
Oof, sorry Timothor!! Hope you're ok!
The Bonehead Podcast4 tháng trước
Signing in to area 51
Rev. Timothy Hafner4 tháng trước
Dorfs are going to be kings of 2020
DimmyGee5 tháng trước
I tell you what - they're not bad! I ran them against Goblins (my opponent's choice! Don't judge me haha), and they were really good! (viworld.info/rock/video/q5J3mGiOxJh6xnU.html)
The Bonehead Podcast5 tháng trước
Was desperately hoping Elves weren't so awful to play against and ridiculously strong in Blood Bowl 2020 but it looks like they're as annoying as ever. I don't think I've ever enjoyed playing against elves.
Jack Moore5 tháng trước
Elves are a lot worse now.
Joris Vander Cammen4 tháng trước
Ahhhh Jack... take ogres 😏 you’ll lose... but the murder will be glorious!! Actually Black Orcs achieve this too 😁
The Bonehead Podcast5 tháng trước
You guys gonna put your podcast on stitcher?
Tom Hancock5 tháng trước
Hey Tom - I hadn't heard of Stitcher until you mentioned it, and we'll see what we can do!!
The Bonehead Podcast5 tháng trước
Got a bit confused when you started with number 5, but displayed the graphic for number 1.
Justin Smith5 tháng trước
I just realized that your logos look like they're made with placeit. They're pretty good--I made some 'team logos' based on fantasy fiction with them (Rohan Broncos etc.).
James Hutchings5 tháng trước
Haha you caught me James! The site works really well for what we're doing :D
The Bonehead Podcast5 tháng trước
What's the difference between the tiers?
HazelVandice7 tháng trước
Hey HazelVandice - literally nothing at all in the rule book! It’s a starting point for coaches maybe? I think they look a little wonky in places!
The Bonehead Podcast7 tháng trước
You guys seams to forget, that chosen skill will much more expensive in TV wise, that more important then SPP cost.
Sebastian Romero7 tháng trước
@Edward Green yeah, when I run a league I don't think that I would allow skill grinding. I haven't looked at the season restart but as long as players will become more expensive the more seasons they get under their belt. But it's a terrible design idea to allow a single random roll to benefit greatly to certain players, like skinks, which can get easily enough SPP to make a gamble and still make most of the results they get. I need to check the odds but their seem a lot of general skills which are useful to a Lizardmen team. Allowing at half TV and more punishing, at half SPP?
Joris Vander Cammen4 tháng trước
@Edward Green that's going to only happen in the online ladder, which gets reset often and people need to grind a good record too since the number of games are limited. In leagues you could only reset between seasons and that's kind of counter productive most of the time. Also leagues could police or house rule skill grinding.
noamto4 tháng trước
Oof, I hadn’t even started to think about that! But yeah, you’re right!
The Bonehead Podcast6 tháng trước
Think the real problem (online anyway.) will be people grinding out the random skills. So you could have two identical teams at very different TV's.
Edward Green6 tháng trước
Hey Sebastian, that’s a really really good point - but I think at the start of a teams life it’s important to get the skills that you need, rather than risk bloating with skills you don’t!
The Bonehead Podcast7 tháng trước
This list is just a badly timed April Fools joke, no Snotlings on nr. 1?! Not even on the list?! You just haven't been fungus'd enough my man
Big Man Big House7 tháng trước
Nice video. I think you really nailed it with Lizardmen. They are super strong and everything that did hurt them got worse. IMO that's why random MVP is a good thing. With the D3 MVP, Lizardmen are ridiculously OP.
Massimo Rolli7 tháng trước
Dont feel like they are OP. D3 MVP helps a lot of team. When you know how to play agains Lizards, you can take them out pretty easy
Liquid Dude7 tháng trước
@Matt Ellis Agreed. If it was like that It would be good. The coach nominating the 3 is the thing I don't like. Too advantageous to some races.
Massimo Rolli7 tháng trước
@Matt Ellis It would be cool if the MVP somehow mimicked real football. What I have seen in my league unfortunately is that the nominees have nothing to do do with the games, but are always the hardest to skill or the closest to skill.... which is not so fluffy. Like a saurus that was nominated 15 times out of 15 games. 2 casualties in a league and 5 MVPs.... :(
Massimo Rolli7 tháng trước
@The Bonehead Podcast And now Lizardmen CAN pass.
Massimo Rolli7 tháng trước
With you on this!
The Bonehead Podcast7 tháng trước
Next: Top 5 ball carriers
Orion Slatten7 tháng trước
Hahaha it could be done! 🤔😂
The Bonehead Podcast7 tháng trước
I've been a fan of Lizardmen since I started playing Blood Bowl, the Plastic team is amazing, sure beats scraping the weapons off old metal skins. Interesting to know the Chameleon kinks are going to be useful players.
@Big Man Big House And I'll be comfortably living in that hill until the day I die!
Kiernan Grimes7 tháng trước
You're objectively wrong. Snotlings beat Halflings (and any other team for that matrer) easily. And I will die on this hill until the day I die!
Big Man Big House7 tháng trước
Damn, this is my list too!
Kiernan Grimes7 tháng trước
Next: Top 5 best throwers in the game
Nic7 tháng trước
On the subject of SPP for your own casualties. Khorne cares not from where the blood flows!
Brandon Upchurch5 tháng trước
Hahahah Matt gets it 😉😂🏆
The Bonehead Podcast7 tháng trước
@Matt Ellis :D
Nic7 tháng trước
Did I miss something ? Chameleon still have stunty and so they pass on a 4+ or not ?
Liquid Dude7 tháng trước
Stunty has changed in the new edition. It no longers makes passing the ball harder, it just makes the intercept roll easier.Chameleon skins actually pass on a 3+.
Tyranids are the best Bloodbowl team! Sorry, just hopeful.
Thinking of starting out Blood Bowl as a Skaven. Any tips or tricks?
Haha, brown primer will be your friend here 😂👍
Not at all!! Go crazy! Design your own colour scheme and make your own team 😍
Also is there any set rules on uniform colours for Blood Bowl like with space marine chapter colours or is it just whatever colour takes your fancy?
Fantastic, thank you 😊 I'm mostly in on them because I wanna paint something that's not undead 😂
Hey Chris! I absolutely *love* Skaven! Awesome team! Do check out our Starting Rosters video for Skaven teams (viworld.info/rock/video/0pKFtJvJl3qinKs.html) - it’ll talk you through your options! But secondly - Skaven die all the time! Be prepared 😂 but they’re super fast and really flexible!!
Really happy I bought a tabletop lizardmen team a year ago :) Also, please may you explain what is meant by "stretch play"? Thanks.
Hey Benny! Yeah! Lizards got even better (and a lot cooler now the Chameleon is worthwhile!). Sure thing, sorry! What I mean by a stretch play is this... A Player with the ball can only move so far - that's it's normal distance. If that's enough for a TD - huzzah! Otherwise -no. Handing off or passing to another player - combines the movement of 2 or 3 players, stretching the play beyond that limit! So having someone within MA+0-2) distance from the EZ allows that stretch play straight to a TD!!
Sounds cliche, but if you get a very experienced Dwarf coach, he can make a lot of heads look quite foolish.
You're so right, John! Same with Norse coaches - Block and positioning will win more games than high AG!
With the new chameleon skinks, suddenly taking catch almost feels better than sure hands for regular skinks. So much the better since catch is an agility skill which skinks have easy access to. What is it 20SPP (I think) for a skink to have dodge, stunty, block and catch...sounds legit to me. The old block/sure hands skink is still solid but that's 30 SPP? For 1/3 less SPP catch, block sounds really solid too. Sure hands feels better on the chameleon along with accurate.
Dwarfs, Undead, Humans, Lizardmen, Skaven. I think all the elves are pretty clustered right in the 6-8 slots.
Necromntic not good?
I like Orc teams kicking the living crap out of other teams is my bag
Dwarfs, Humans, Skaven, Undead, Lizardmen.
Agreed, I can't put any elves in my top 5, not at reasonable/lowish TV. And I'd rate Wood Elves as the worst elves now. There's no more leaping in cages and stealing the ball, and anyone retrieving it and passing it away. Instead on defense it's screens and attrition for up to 8 turns. You still have mighty blow tackle to deal with, diving tackle armbar player could be brutal, and there's more teams who can undercut your expensive elven TV with access to cheap bribes for increased fouling.
Ota, I can't argue with that - they're some excellent teams in this edition!
I do agree with Lizardmen taking the top spot, Break Tackle did get nerfed badly but ST4 MA 6 still works wonders and now they have a good option on stretch play while others don't as much. I don't know if I agree with Skaven being that much better. Sure there stretch play became better but their Gutter runner BS plays are severely hampered and that always has been their strongest part of the defense. So no, I don't think that Skaven gained as much as Pro Elves did.
Thanks, Joris! Nice to have you on board!
You did earn a subscription here.
Loved the video, but felt sea-sick with the floating background... Strong painkillers probably not helping!
Oof, sorry Timothor!! Hope you're ok!
Signing in to area 51
Dorfs are going to be kings of 2020
I tell you what - they're not bad! I ran them against Goblins (my opponent's choice! Don't judge me haha), and they were really good! (viworld.info/rock/video/q5J3mGiOxJh6xnU.html)
Was desperately hoping Elves weren't so awful to play against and ridiculously strong in Blood Bowl 2020 but it looks like they're as annoying as ever. I don't think I've ever enjoyed playing against elves.
Elves are a lot worse now.
Ahhhh Jack... take ogres 😏 you’ll lose... but the murder will be glorious!! Actually Black Orcs achieve this too 😁
You guys gonna put your podcast on stitcher?
Hey Tom - I hadn't heard of Stitcher until you mentioned it, and we'll see what we can do!!
Got a bit confused when you started with number 5, but displayed the graphic for number 1.
I just realized that your logos look like they're made with placeit. They're pretty good--I made some 'team logos' based on fantasy fiction with them (Rohan Broncos etc.).
Haha you caught me James! The site works really well for what we're doing :D
What's the difference between the tiers?
Hey HazelVandice - literally nothing at all in the rule book! It’s a starting point for coaches maybe? I think they look a little wonky in places!
You guys seams to forget, that chosen skill will much more expensive in TV wise, that more important then SPP cost.
@Edward Green yeah, when I run a league I don't think that I would allow skill grinding. I haven't looked at the season restart but as long as players will become more expensive the more seasons they get under their belt. But it's a terrible design idea to allow a single random roll to benefit greatly to certain players, like skinks, which can get easily enough SPP to make a gamble and still make most of the results they get. I need to check the odds but their seem a lot of general skills which are useful to a Lizardmen team. Allowing at half TV and more punishing, at half SPP?
@Edward Green that's going to only happen in the online ladder, which gets reset often and people need to grind a good record too since the number of games are limited. In leagues you could only reset between seasons and that's kind of counter productive most of the time. Also leagues could police or house rule skill grinding.
Oof, I hadn’t even started to think about that! But yeah, you’re right!
Think the real problem (online anyway.) will be people grinding out the random skills. So you could have two identical teams at very different TV's.
Hey Sebastian, that’s a really really good point - but I think at the start of a teams life it’s important to get the skills that you need, rather than risk bloating with skills you don’t!
This list is just a badly timed April Fools joke, no Snotlings on nr. 1?! Not even on the list?! You just haven't been fungus'd enough my man
Nice video. I think you really nailed it with Lizardmen. They are super strong and everything that did hurt them got worse. IMO that's why random MVP is a good thing. With the D3 MVP, Lizardmen are ridiculously OP.
Dont feel like they are OP. D3 MVP helps a lot of team. When you know how to play agains Lizards, you can take them out pretty easy
@Matt Ellis Agreed. If it was like that It would be good. The coach nominating the 3 is the thing I don't like. Too advantageous to some races.
@Matt Ellis It would be cool if the MVP somehow mimicked real football. What I have seen in my league unfortunately is that the nominees have nothing to do do with the games, but are always the hardest to skill or the closest to skill.... which is not so fluffy. Like a saurus that was nominated 15 times out of 15 games. 2 casualties in a league and 5 MVPs.... :(
@The Bonehead Podcast And now Lizardmen CAN pass.
With you on this!
Next: Top 5 ball carriers
Hahaha it could be done! 🤔😂
I've been a fan of Lizardmen since I started playing Blood Bowl, the Plastic team is amazing, sure beats scraping the weapons off old metal skins. Interesting to know the Chameleon kinks are going to be useful players.
Hahaha 😂 worst miniature design ever
It’s such good news for those cool minis!
1.halflings 2 halflings 3 halflings 4 halflings 5 halflings :)
Big takes from the Big Man 😁😁👍👍 Roll then Wagons!
@Big Man Big House And I'll be comfortably living in that hill until the day I die!
You're objectively wrong. Snotlings beat Halflings (and any other team for that matrer) easily. And I will die on this hill until the day I die!
Damn, this is my list too!
Next: Top 5 best throwers in the game
On the subject of SPP for your own casualties. Khorne cares not from where the blood flows!
Hahahah Matt gets it 😉😂🏆
@Matt Ellis :D
Did I miss something ? Chameleon still have stunty and so they pass on a 4+ or not ?
Stunty has changed in the new edition. It no longers makes passing the ball harder, it just makes the intercept roll easier.Chameleon skins actually pass on a 3+.