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Snazzy Labs finally answers the question: which is better dollar for dollar? Mac? Or PC? Seems pretty obvious when you compare the Maingear VYBE sporting a 64-core AMD Threadripper 3990X with NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti against our Mac Pro with a 12-core Intel Xeon W-3235 and Radeon Vega Pro II; however, all of this hubbub about Apple's optimization isn't just B.S. So, how does a Mac perform against a PC when doing tasks you'd find yourself doing on macOS like using Final Cut Pro? Let's find out!
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Sad to see abandonment of intel. Most of this will be outdated meaning apps. I been warning mac users for a year now the new m1 chips will kill support for intel when it comes to devs. I even sold my mac because of this. It's time to just move away.
f-mac, I d c what you say...rofl...j/k I just hate proprietary systems sure some of them are more secure than others, what about linux on the same pc hardware with Blender, or some other refined source of video editing? Nice video guys, or check the Parrallels virtual machine with Mac running windows 10 on a dedicated drive through Mac OSX(or whatever derivative of os is running on mac).--That would be an interesting Comparison. Anyways Nice job. Happy Holidays Dec 16 2020....:)
Chosing Adobe products was why it failed.
Thank you for not spitting out the usual VPN bullshit as a techie, but just show the real cases for a VPN! Rare sight.
Yeah, that's why you're here to begin with. Another fat, boring liar here to pimp your advertisers.
The future is custom build.
throw an rx 6900 into that 64 core machine with mac os on it, and run final cut, now thats a fair test.
4:30 "49 countries" screen says 47
I am a Windows user, so I just bash Apple and hate Apple users. When my Macbook Air M1 arrives in a couple of days I will bash Windows and hate Windows users. And fanboy a lot about Apple. There never was much to fanboy about on Windows.
A lot of people here, complain about the price of the new Mac Pro. So heres the truth about that :- Its TAX DEDUCTABLE. Most buyers will be running a business and the cost comes straight off your tax bill. As a private buyer, you wont get this advantage. So just buy an M1 Mac mini. You can run Mac, Windows, Linux all on the same machine. Whats not to like?
what's a video editing? i'm gamer PC MASTER RACE
I am probably not the first one to say this, but $11,000 will go soooo much further if you don't spend $3000 of it on non-essential shiny stuff... Before COVID happened, the core specs of that PC could have been built for less than $8k. And you could have had 2x2080ti's, or maybe even 2xTitans for the same or less with a more optimized system.
Could of ironed that top
Me acully tries to upgrade mac os 10.10 to os big sur on a vm, the vm *chrashes and wont boot*
...nah...CRAPple...
Mac can't even handle gaming. How trash. I have an apple laptop for school and that is it. The actual desktop is INSANELY overpriced for literally no reason. You can literally buy a prebuilt that is no joke 10X more powerful than Apple's top computer. It's disgusting how people just throw money at apple. I swear people are so stupid apple can literally sell them a $1 bill for $500 and they'd still buy it.
People are butt hurt about spending thousands on apple products.. these are the same people who haven’t figured out that you can trade in your gear for upgrades with reasonable compensation if you just continually upgrade? Idk 🤔 you tell me. I like fresh gear. Enjoy your multi thousand dollar set up that will not be shiny for ten years. But at least it will be tinker friendly if that gets your itch :). All in all, we all got a different itch that needs a scratch in a different spot. Depends what your doing with it, and if you are more comfortable with the software interface of one rather than the other.
Anti Apple fans, their endless insecurity drives them to make videos and commercials like this. Apple users, working.
The $11,000 PC comes with a $10,000 used Prius
Who will win? Vending machine Cheese grater
Thanks this helped me decide
Appple over priced product with dumb after sales service
The comparison is unfair! you compare a top of the line mac to a show beast-top of the line PC. Why didnt you calculate the nessisary PC components without the fancy RGB and timeconsuming hardline tubes (mac doesnt have that so why does pc need it?) I did a quick calculation and the PC would cost about 7.5K in euros so lets say 8k in dollars. (thats including a few extra's like a better gpu and faster RAM) So lets compare our 8.000 dollar honest top-of-the-line to our top-of-the-line 11.000 dollar Mac Pro now shal we? This is a no contest! the PC wins EVERYWHERE. Even where the mac times are faster, it still gets smoked, demolished and even sodomised by the PC's price to performance! With that said, if you take all mac components and build it yourself in a somewhat cheap case (if you can get your hands on all) with the macOS, the mac would stand a fighting chance since its a LOT cheaper all of a sudden. BUT!!! you fanboys pay for that smooth design, "quality" of build, the simplicity of it all. Mac looks good in a office or living room as a decoration piece. PC gets shit done! As a closing statement, if apple did hardline tubing and RGB, the price would easely hit 18.000 dollar and you know it.
IF Mac OS was available like Windows is, would anyone REALLY buy apple products, other than the people with more money than sense .
dude 10 years ago apple wasnt as bad and Jobs was still behind the helm. but NOW !! they are blatantly seeing how little they can give you for the most about of money ! before I got out of the tech world I took apart the "new" macbook ..... all battery and a ipad motherboard. how is advancing technology ? I am so glad I left apple when i did
Windows is a joke and I use windows everyday. I'm seriously making the switch to Mac. I plan to just get the Mac Mini
Him calling the 580 bad: Me with a 1.8 gb ddr4 internal graphics with my 5250u
There was a time, back in the late 90s early 2000s, when Mac was important to pro graphics users. When that passed, Mactards became a justified label.
You could easily build the same pc for WAY cheaper too especially if you skipped the custom cooling.
Apple's products is only good in the programs the specs is shittier than self built pc or gaming laptops (except for iphones those phones is a bit overpriced but for phone tech is better than other phones)
I hate how the score's actual value changes from one version of geekbench to another, though it is crazy to see that a hackingtosh MacPro I built in 2017 comes close to the 6k pro here. GB4 I scored 23k. I no longer have it, but would of loved to get a GB5 score on it. Honestly the Mac stuff is good, just the price isn't. It really boils down to what you need to do. And if you are using it to make money or content, well then price really becomes much less relevent and function/performance more so. For the most part, I always opt for PC and hacking, though I do have multiple Macs. Using them as tools to make money really does ease up the cost ;)
This guy really knows his shit!
Apple could stick a logo on a tin of beans and charge $1000 for it and fan boys would claim it's "special beans"
I am isheep
I wonder how the new M1 and future Apple Silicon will change things. Results have been outstanding so far, I’d love to see what they could do with the same idea in a pro desktop, or especially a consumer desktop.
I love how you're an Apple sheep that bashes Apple.
Pci express adaptered m2 ssd in 6000 backs Mac pro. They are Just laughing on u, obviouly.
NO APPLE IPAD WINDOWS TABLET WINS THE LOTTERY OR IF YOU RICH BUY A 999,999,999 PC
The thing is... you could switched the amd processor... to an Intel one... and then install hackintosh... and you have the power from PC ON IOS... and then how would they compare?
Started video addressing why the notion of Macs being massively overpriced cult status symbols was wrong and then after proving that they are massively slower than a ridiculously priced PC, I mean you could destroy that performance with a 3k PC, you finished with "well I like them better" and no shit, you've got a Mac channel, you're part of the cult, you've paid apple out the ass for machines that broke themselves and they refused to repair until they realized you have a platform. My point being, Apple is for status symbol hipster idiots. Thank you
I built my sister a pc for about $600 that would beat the $6,000 mac
My pc is around 650-700$ with an Ryzen 5 1600X and an Radeon RX 580 is stronger for 10 times less price. Also the mac has MACOS thats complete shit.
I didn’t know a cheese grater was so expensive.
This guys balsy! He put a Samsung card in an Apple Computer!!
8 PCIE slots *why*
Mac users are so butthurt in this comment section xD It clearly shows that they are twice stupid Butthurt and manipulated
But buying the Mac you can only do the things the Mac does well. With the other pc you can game and do other stuff
Apple fans are just richer guys. Don't hate them because they can afford nice things
They're just overpriced
More expensive, not nicer
why not use hackintosh?
"Nearly double" the score in Cinebench R20 is just a 55% increase. Closer to a 40% increase than a 100% increase. Only gripe I have. I love your channel.
you could just get a macos virtual machine
Well, lets be real here, once you're done your work and you want to play games, which are you really gonna pick? heh.
5:51 HAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS Wtf never mix different ram sizes
The comments at the beginning are so true 😂
Apple sucks.. get a PC... was a Mac User Editor for many many years... they are too busy making phones.. the OS alone is terrible. So sad ... Cause with Steve Apple was a great company. and Final Cut Pro X is god horrid.
This video looked like it had promise, but is still frustratingly light on detail. I use both the Adobe Suite and Final Cut Pro. If it weren't for Final Cut, I wouldn't need to own a Mac. I can dual-boot Windows and Linux no problems, and can boot OSX using KVM without assistance. Unfortunately, I've found that OSX really doesn't like Nvidia graphics cards. Since everything else seems to prefer Nvidia cards (some of which require CUDA), this is a problem. Any chance you have a source for some drivers for an NVIDIA Quadro RTX A6000 48GB that will pass through from Linux to OSX, or even run on OSX natively. I don't have the capital at the moment to purchase the equivalent AMD based video card, and given that my work involves a lot of computer vision and is coded for CUDA, it would be hard to justify the price.
Mac Pro is kind of an expensive cheese grater!
Pro means over Proiced
Most Apple fans wants apple products because apple products makes them look rich . Fuck this immatured apple fans
People would just buy it cuz it's from 'Apple' And let's be real... A maingear looks way better
Imagine now with the 3090, it would destroy the shitty mac
Titan rtx >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No I core 5 no ryzen 9 only intel Pentium and the intel hd * _Black and white screen appears_
I had the same question
Mac is just Nintendo in disguise.
i dont care....
My thing has to be glitching it says I have 69,000 on geekbench
11k mac is faster than 10k pc by 1.2%. 1.2% for $1000 :D and all this in one program where the PC keeps the speed in everyone ... and that's called the better mac result? It's a joke right?
The price difference is ~10%. You pay 10% more for only 1.2% better performance.
Aye this is my problem, I can’t still buy a fucking a simple Mac.
pc nerds are annoying smh
@trmg exactly
apple fans are annoying smh
A person who does not know about JIT optimization and is a main streamer talking about JVM performance...
Games on iOS : What is this place???
Just proved that apple sucks
Apple ram is special,its black😂
So for 11000$ Do I want : -a video editing pc -a video editing, gaming and streaming all in one pc ?
POV: You're watching this after the m1 came out and are wondering how their chips will be upgraded for the Mac Pro
M1 has integrated RAM, don't seem to be recommended for e.g. film-editing.
I use a 15 year old PC with Linux.
also the apple pc looks like a fucking electrical inverter for your house
apple is basically the razer of the tech world but without the increased product quality
i love that maingear got more advertisment than PIA
I used to have a Mac but then I became an engineer.
I dunno why i clicked this xD its already obvious that the pc would destroy the mac
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Look! This optimized Apple software barely runs better than a pc running the garbage pile of Adobe code.
WTF
Apple Silicon has entered the chat
Add the titan cards Apple Mac Pro would get destroyed
They are both pc, and nowadays they share more or less the same hardware, the big difference is on the OS. So an honest hw performance parallel would be done with the same OS but here the discussion is on the synergy between hw and sw. Regarding this, we got a general OS that is Windows, designed to do more or less anything (how about the Mac server side?) with a lot of pc design flexibility, and on the other side we got a specific OS designed and optimized by Mac to be installed on a specific hardware (basically a blackbox for a standard user) and usually suitable for the media production. For me between these two OS wins the third one: on the same Windows based PC a Linux distro can drastically improve the overall performance maintaining the same flexibility, having a stable machine with all the Mac OS benefits without busting the bank.
You mean the os and the specs, Just build your own pc and instal Mac OS if you like the os
They're selling a 900 "stand" *STAND*
I’ll only buy MacBooks for a laptop but when it comes to a desktop I’d never touch an Apple. Build all the way.
Apple its shit!
Who the fuck compares two 11 000 $ machines? Sorry but apple with its no self repairs policy is a shitty company run by not verry innovative managers.
So you manipulated the comparison and at the end you said whatever guys.. How about upgrade options? How about customization? Of course mac are good machines. The point is if they worth the money. Compare a 6000 pc built with a 11000th mac pro. The price of the pc in this video is inflatted. you can take out a lot and save thousand of dollars and then the comparison value for money will be devastating in favor of the pc. A cheaper tower, a smaller ssd, no water cooling etc.
1:00 1300$ for the screen? is that with or without the stand for the screen? i've seen somewhere, apple sells a stand for almost 1000$, a simple milled and bent aluminium piece, production cost probably around 5 to 10$.
How satisfying this video was 👍👍
Why does it cost 11k. My 400$ console has a little less specs and costs 10400 dollars cheaper
apple is shit but all right
I have a MacBook Pro and its working very well, the thing I hate about apple is there overpriced Mac Pro and there FUCKING 1000 dollar piece of metal that they call a "sTaNd" idk what is wrong with Tim Cook but he's probably high on drugs
No fence u look like apple fan boy . just remember every one cannot afford 11K pc at home. In today's time u need systems that can perform well and should be accessible by majority of the people. Apple was garbage company and will remaing grab age company. They are modern day mafia that takes money out of people pocket just to maintain monopoly in the market. do ur god damm research and before mocking that apple is the best.
They don't actually have an monopoly in anything, just a high profit margin on their products.
but can they run Crysis?
If only u could get rx 580s for 150$ still😭😭
Why the fuck does the base model come with 256gb of storage
Why does the Mac look like a cheese grinder from the front?
An Apple Mac is not a gaming device so the pc will always have a better screen and better graphics
Mac isn't a gaming device and it's true, but It's overpriced. With 11k/6k dollars, you can buy an all in one pc which is a big win. And what do you mean by better screen and better graphics, do you have any knowledge about computers dumbass? Better screen and better graphics depends on the monitor they use ( res, hz ) or the graphics settings they set.
It’s not that it’s a gaming computer, it’s that the Mac is overpriced
Mac > Windows
*_I'M SORRY BUT YOUR OPINION IS WRONG_*
Not really
nay
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